High TNF alpha : Ayurveda treatment


#1

Hello everybody

I am Aisha ,
I have a daughter and now i am planning for my second child.
My pelvic ultrasound , fsh, lh , amh, afc etc all is normal. Was still not getting pregnant. So got a couple of more tests done.

From that popped up a few issues ,
But the most disturbing one is
HIGH TNF ALPHA.
There are a few others which are easily manageable such as anaemia,
high cholesterol etc.

Now i want to treat these issues with Ayurvedic treatment. As i am in no mood to try Anti tnf therapy, stetoids,
or anticoagulants.
And yes tried ashwagandha and turmeric with few other basic remedies
Wasnt of much use,
values and symptoms showed no change.
So kindly guide,

Aisha


#2

Hi aisha
I have
LOW AMH and
ANTINUCLEAR ANTIBODIES POSITIVE.
DUSTURBED NK CELLS( few up, few down)
although tnf alpha is normal.

So its like IMMUNE INFERTILITY

Tried blood thinners didn’t work out and also
i am also not ready for steroids.
I am scared of such heavy medication.
So trying ayurveda treatment by dr uppal
(Suntex Ayurvedic clinic).
Cant comment on it right now as its too early but still you can give him a try as they have been treating such cases from last 70 years approx.
So its good amount of experience.
And dr uppal is soft spoken and he hears you with
Utmost patience. Thats d best part. He gives you ample time to discuss and speak even smallest details related to the patient.
So good luck


#3

Hi khwabm ,

Thank you for your reply
Actually these are so confusing issues that you need somebody’s opinion on it always.
And that too a neutral one.

I have been doing a lot of study on these immune infertility issues and i have learnt alot and this much reading has also messed up my brain too.
So like both ways
Anyways i have learnt that ,
“TNF is high in autoimmune conditions.”

So if your Ayurvedic physician is treating autoimmune conditions via ayurveda then this is good news for me.
I ll try to give dr uppal a serious thought, meanwhile we ll stay in touch and you keep giving me your updates.

I ll be waiting eagerly for your updates.

Thanks dear .


#4

Hi aisha ,
i can totally understand what you are trying to say and i agree with you

"tnf alpha is associated with auto immunity "

We need to train our immune system to identify between self and non self , so that like modulation.

Once this gets done then all the issues relating to auto immunity start getting resolved on its own and
Our immune system will stop acting against our own organs and systems

This is what dr uppal explained me and
i agree with him because i have read similar explanations at some other websites too.

This job sound easy but it is not that easy.
Anyways lets see
How’s things progress i ll keep giving you my updates.
So far i am feeling ok infact a bit more energetic. Its been only few days of my treatment so i need to wait for something noticeable to happen.
Ok aisha see ya soon.


#5

Hi khwabm,

The explanation sounds pretty satisfying.
But training the immune system to differentiate between self and non self seems like a tedious job.
And this also means that all immune related issues can be handled that way, because auto immunity itself includes a lot of ailments
Such as anti thyroid, anti nuclear antibody, anti sperm antibody etc?
Am i right ?
By the way i am glad to hear about your energy levels,
Good energy indicates that your body n mind are getting into a good state.
I am getting interested in giving dr uppal a try for maybe a month or so,

Plus i also want to take few more inputs, opinions from other forums where people are taking treatment from dr uppal ( suntex ayurvedic clinic).

Ok khwabm i ll get back to you soon.


#6

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1870837, member: 88345”]Hi khwabm,

The explanation sounds pretty satisfying.
But training the immune system to differentiate between self and non self seems like a tedious job.
And this also means that all immune related issues can be handled that way, because auto immunity itself includes a lot of ailments
Such as anti thyroid, anti nuclear antibody, anti sperm antibody etc?
Am i right ?
By the way i am glad to hear about your energy levels,
Good energy indicates that your body n mind are getting into a good state.
I am getting interested in giving dr uppal a try for maybe a month or so,

Plus i also want to take few more inputs, opinions from other forums where people are taking treatment from dr uppal ( suntex ayurvedic clinic).

Ok khwabm i ll get back to you soon.[/QUOTE]

Hi aisha,
Well you seem to get my point pretty well.
I also think that way,
this kind of Ayurvedic treatment will cover a broader range if auto immune conditions and other immune infertility issuesrather than just focusing on a few.
This line of treatment is pretty good to adopt.

Now lets see what happens further, cos from research point of view we have strong reasoning.
We need to hope that we strike the right cord .

Healthwise i am ok , digestion gastric stool sleep and body pains getting resolved.
Energy levels are again much better, even inspite of so much of festivities
So much of exertion
Still energy levels are pretty good.
So i am feeling positive snd motivated with the response i am getting.
As per my experience so far ,
1-2 month trial is not a bad deal .
Taking into account all the aspects, and all the other treatment modalities available.

Cya


#7

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#8

[QUOTE=“Khwabm, post: 1870839, member: 88351”]Hi aisha,
Well you seem to get my point pretty well.
I also think that way,
this kind of Ayurvedic treatment will cover a broader range if auto immune conditions and other immune infertility issuesrather than just focusing on a few.
This line of treatment is pretty good to adopt.

Now lets see what happens further, cos from research point of view we have strong reasoning.
We need to hope that we strike the right cord .

Healthwise i am ok , digestion gastric stool sleep and body pains getting resolved.
Energy levels are again much better, even inspite of so much of festivities
So much of exertion
Still energy levels are pretty good.
So i am feeling positive snd motivated with the response i am getting.
As per my experience so far ,
1-2 month trial is not a bad deal .
Taking into account all the aspects, and all the other treatment modalities available.

Cya[/QUOTE]

Hi khwabm,

I am really happy to see you progress.
Infact i have also got good reviews of suntex Ayurvedic clinic( dr uppal) from a few other discussion forums or blogs of which i am a part of.
I am in touch with a lady, she is taking treatment from dr uppal.

She has multiple fibroids, low amh along with positive ANA.( anti nuclear antibodies)
She also has a history of multiple iui and
ivf failures.

She has well knowledge about Ayurvedic medicines and their basics of diet , sleep etc.
She also knows detailed procedures of medicine manufacturing, diet, lifestyle do n donts etc

She told me that shes been spending a good amount of time with an Ayurvedic physician since childhood.
That dr was her granfather’s friend.
So i am going to get geniune reviews on
dr uppal from such a knowledgeable person
Who is also one of dr uppal’s patient.

Good na?


#9

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1870858, member: 88345”]Hi khwabm,

I am really happy to see you progress.
Infact i have also got good reviews of suntex Ayurvedic clinic( dr uppal) from a few other discussion forums or blogs of which i am a part of.
I am in touch with a lady, she is taking treatment from dr uppal.

She has multiple fibroids, low amh along with positive ANA.( anti nuclear antibodies)
She also has a history of multiple iui and
ivf failures.

She has well knowledge about Ayurvedic medicines and their basics of diet , sleep etc.
She also knows detailed procedures of medicine manufacturing, diet, lifestyle do n donts etc

She told me that shes been spending a good amount of time with an Ayurvedic physician since childhood.
That dr was her granfather’s friend.
So i am going to get geniune reviews on
dr uppal from such a knowledgeable person
Who is also one of dr uppal’s patient.

Good na?[/QUOTE]

Lucky you
This is pleasant news for you.
You can get ample information from her.
One thing i have noticed in the last few days is that my irritability has reduced, that weird feel i used to get before my menses is not happening now.
Anger , repeated loo breaks, breast engorgment, nausea, and emotional behaviour is getting controlled
I am becoming more of a rational person.
So my need for any more reviews on dr uppal is no more there.
My trust on him is getting strengthened every passing day.
What i like the mist about him is his selfless service,
You get regular calls from him
asking about your wellness
Or any health issues.
So you as a patient are never out of his head.
He remembers you well.
Thats a good sign, and i have started feeling comfortable under his treatment.
He even calls me up for useful reminders.
Exceptional.


#10

[QUOTE=“Khwabm, post: 1870868, member: 88351”]Lucky you
This is pleasant news for you.
You can get ample information from her.
One thing i have noticed in the last few days is that my irritability has reduced, that weird feel i used to get before my menses is not happening now.
Anger , repeated loo breaks, breast engorgment, nausea, and emotional behaviour is getting controlled
I am becoming more of a rational person.
So my need for any more reviews on dr uppal is no more there.
My trust on him is getting strengthened every passing day.
What i like the mist about him is his selfless service,
You get regular calls from him
asking about your wellness
Or any health issues.
So you as a patient are never out of his head.
He remembers you well.
Thats a good sign, and i have started feeling comfortable under his treatment.
He even calls me up for useful reminders.
Exceptional.[/QUOTE]

Wow dear.
I have started my treatment with dr uppal
and i have also started experiencing such facilities you can say.
Its not any assistant or receptionist who is answering my calls or queries.
Its always dr uppal , this is impressive

Giving personalised care to each patient is a tiring job but this is the way how things should be done.
Atleast the dr should be aware of my case , my condition, and my health updates.
So far i am happy with my case handling and
I seriously hope that this good handling or treatment should culminate quickly into some big good news.
Only time can tell
Till then
Take care.


#11

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1870869, member: 88345”]Wow dear.
I have started my treatment with dr uppal
and i have also started experiencing such facilities you can say.
Its not any assistant or receptionist who is answering my calls or queries.
Its always dr uppal , this is impressive

Giving personalised care to each patient is a tiring job but this is the way how things should be done.
Atleast the dr should be aware of my case , my condition, and my health updates.
So far i am happy with my case handling and
I seriously hope that this good handling or treatment should culminate quickly into some big good news.
Only time can tell
Till then
Take care.[/QUOTE]

Hi aisha
Don’t worry aisha
This ll happen and happen for sure.
When the motive , efforts, feelings , are pure n genuine from both sides , then we are bound to prosper.
All the very best.


#12

[QUOTE=“Khwabm, post: 1870882, member: 88351”]Hi aisha
Don’t worry aisha
This ll happen and happen for sure.
When the motive , efforts, feelings , are pure n genuine from both sides , then we are bound to prosper.
All the very best.[/QUOTE]

Well said.
Hey what you told few days ago ;
I have noticed the exact same pattern.
All my before mc issues - were negligible.
This was a big relief, , joint painsbetter.
Mood swings better
My husband took a sigh of relief this time
He was kinda surprised to see this sudden change in my behaviour.
And for me since my body was ok , i was full of energy to live my life happily in a normal way just as i do otherwise.


#13

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1870885, member: 88345”]Well said.
Hey what you told few days ago ;
I have noticed the exact same pattern.
All my before mc issues - were negligible.
This was a big relief, , joint painsbetter.
Mood swings better
My husband took a sigh of relief this time
He was kinda surprised to see this sudden change in my behaviour.
And for me since my body was ok , i was full of energy to live my life happily in a normal way just as i do otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Hi aisha
Even i feel the same ,
I have a strong gut feeling that if i move this way with all the appropriate medications and diet with the do’s n dont’s
I ll soon achieve something big
Say a big fat positive may be??
I am gonna place my next month medicine order soon , then by dec end or jan next year i l start planning for my tests.


#14

[QUOTE=“Khwabm, post: 1870920, member: 88351”]Hi aisha
Even i feel the same ,
I have a strong gut feeling that if i move this way with all the appropriate medications and diet with the do’s n dont’s
I ll soon achieve something big
Say a big fat positive may be??
I am gonna place my next month medicine order soon , then by dec end or jan next year i l start planning for my tests.[/QUOTE]

Good luck dear.
I hope your gut feeling proves right for you.


#15

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1870978, member: 88345”]Good luck dear.
I hope your gut feeling proves right for you.[/QUOTE]

Hi aisha,
Just wanted to discuss something with you
I am feeling kinda weird these days
There’s cramping on n off in my low abdomen,
Never felt like this ever in my life,
Should i be concerned or is this normal?
Read online about it
Some say it happens occasionally
Could be due to digestion stool or urine related projects…
But all this is perfectly ok.
Then probably its pms , however since last two months my periods and their onset has been really smooth with no cramps no nausea no tummy ache.
I ll ask dr uppal about it and will let u know
Meanwhile you plz tell me your take on this
Ok i ll wait fir your reply
Don’t hurry cos its mild sensation kind of a feeling
I don’t want you to feel any panic about this.
I was just curious…


#16

[QUOTE=“Khwabm, post: 1871076, member: 88351”]Hi aisha,
Just wanted to discuss something with you
I am feeling kinda weird these days
There’s cramping on n off in my low abdomen,
Never felt like this ever in my life,
Should i be concerned or is this normal?
Read online about it
Some say it happens occasionally
Could be due to digestion stool or urine related projects…
But all this is perfectly ok.
Then probably its pms , however since last two months my periods and their onset has been really smooth with no cramps no nausea no tummy ache.
I ll ask dr uppal about it and will let u know
Meanwhile you plz tell me your take on this
Ok i ll wait fir your reply
Don’t hurry cos its mild sensation kind of a feeling
I don’t want you to feel any panic about this.
I was just curious…[/QUOTE]

Hi dear,
I am no expert in this but as far as i have understood and i have known since last couple of months.
I think its something good around the corner
I hope u know what i mean, i can not predict it accurately but this could also be a possibility.
A lot of ladies experience these cramps during the implantation of the fetus.

But plz don’t go by my words alone ,
Do get an whole abdomen ultrasound done to look for the cause and also get in touch with dr uppal for his opinion
And one more thing plz don’t get disheartened if things go the other way.

Whether positive or negative its all part of life.
Since you are enjoying good health, a positive is sure to happen any time soon.
Good luck
All the best.


#17

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1871086, member: 88345”]Hi dear,
I am no expert in this but as far as i have understood and i have known since last couple of months.
I think its something good around the corner
I hope u know what i mean, i can not predict it accurately but this could also be a possibility.
A lot of ladies experience these cramps during the implantation of the fetus.

But plz don’t go by my words alone ,
Do get an whole abdomen ultrasound done to look for the cause and also get in touch with dr uppal for his opinion
And one more thing plz don’t get disheartened if things go the other way.

Whether positive or negative its all part of life.
Since you are enjoying good health, a positive is sure to happen any time soon.
Good luck
All the best.[/QUOTE]

Hi aisha
Thank you for showing me the silver lining . But I am not experiencing such vibes right now.
Reason being with low amh, positive ANA, and disturbed nk cells
I have hope, but practically speaking its too early. I haven’t even rechecked these values yet.
I am in my third month of treatment, although yes healthwise i am ok but still I don’t really expect this too happen so soon.
I don’t mean that i am not optimistic but i am just being too rational.
Lets see i planning to for the ultrasound asap.
Good bye.


#18

[QUOTE=“Khwabm, post: 1871095, member: 88351”]Hi aisha
Thank you for showing me the silver lining . But I am not experiencing such vibes right now.
Reason being with low amh, positive ANA, and disturbed nk cells
I have hope, but practically speaking its too early. I haven’t even rechecked these values yet.
I am in my third month of treatment, although yes healthwise i am ok but still I don’t really expect this too happen so soon.
I don’t mean that i am not optimistic but i am just being too rational.
Lets see i planning to for the ultrasound asap.
Good bye.[/QUOTE]

Hi Khwabm
Even if it’s rational or practical as you say.
But you never know what god has in store for you.
All the best dear.


#19

[QUOTE=“aishakumar, post: 1871098, member: 88345”]Hi Khwabm
Even if it’s rational or practical as you say.
But you never know what god has in store for you.
All the best dear.[/QUOTE]

Hi went for the scan
Whole abdomen, its all ok.
All good. The dr who performed the scan also confirmed, there is no abnormality.
I called dr uppal , told him the same.
He wants me do a urine pregnancy test the first thing tomorrow morning.
And as soon as he said so , I started thinking about you aisha.
May be this is going to happen .
Now i am having real strong positive vibes.
Infact i can now predict it that yes it has to a positive. I may sound overexcited to you but the fact is that yes i am overexcited.
I cant even wait till morning


#20

Hi aisha
Guess what??
This is a happy new year for me dear because
IT IS A POSITIVE
You are a gem aisha.
How could you predict it so early?
I feel like hugging you.
I don’t know how to react.
I wasn’t expecting this so soon,
And this sounds no less than a miracle to me.
this means , amh rose and an healthy follicle was formed.
Immune response got corrected , so may be
thats why my energy levels were also good.

I am left with no words to thank dr uppal for this herculean task.
He’s awesome

Now i ll go for my beta hcg blood report tomorrow and will let you know soon.
Good bye aisha