PCOS and obesity vs. donor egg surrogacy


#21

[QUOTE=“Mydreammore, post: 1870631, member: 87459”]Wow! Wow! Wow! My dear that is really incredible event! It happens to you. I can report I feel wonderful with my news. My surrogate is also pregnant my twins lie under her heart. And this makes us feel young again and full of energy.
I didn’t think you were right because it seemed you tried to solve your relation problems with help of third child. But I can’t restrain my emotions regarding the amazing fact of your progress.
I hope it will make your family stronger.[/QUOTE]
really, you also have twins!? as far as I understand, chances for this are quite high with IVF because I met many women with multiples, some of them even have quadruplets. I think it’s almost impossible when you are getting pregnant naturally. I share your happiness hon.
maybe you got me wrong. it was our dream, we wanted 3 and have been preparing for this for a long time. Now I see that he becomes softer and I’m sure that our relationship will be better for sure. Maybe it’s wrong if it’s the only reason for wanting a baby but we really want to raise more children and give them our love.
Thank you anyway. Best wishes for you and your surrogate mother x


#22

[QUOTE=“harami.lana, post: 1870634, member: 87422”]really, you also have twins!? as far as I understand, chances for this are quite high with IVF because I met many women with multiples, some of them even have quadruplets. I think it’s almost impossible when you are getting pregnant naturally. I share your happiness hon.
maybe you got me wrong. it was our dream, we wanted 3 and have been preparing for this for a long time. Now I see that he becomes softer and I’m sure that our relationship will be better for sure. Maybe it’s wrong if it’s the only reason for wanting a baby but we really want to raise more children and give them our love.
Thank you anyway. Best wishes for you and your surrogate mother x[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much! I beg my pardon if I was too outspoken to your problem. When you’re just an observer of someone’s problem and you are out of all inner events it’s hard to be objective one. You can’t understand full picture of the situation. You had a happiness to be a mom of two children and now you gonna become a mom once again. this is very good! I’m proud of your constancy to purpose. You deserved only the happy ending so let’s wait for it!
Good luck!


#23

[QUOTE=“harami.lana, post: 1870634, member: 87422”]really, you also have twins!? as far as I understand, chances for this are quite high with IVF because I met many women with multiples, some of them even have quadruplets. I think it’s almost impossible when you are getting pregnant naturally. I share your happiness hon.
maybe you got me wrong. it was our dream, we wanted 3 and have been preparing for this for a long time. Now I see that he becomes softer and I’m sure that our relationship will be better for sure. Maybe it’s wrong if it’s the only reason for wanting a baby but we really want to raise more children and give them our love.
Thank you anyway. Best wishes for you and your surrogate mother x[/QUOTE]

And yeah of course I will be a mom of beautiful twins. I lose my mind and control expecting for the moment I hug them and share my strong love.

I’d be glad having even one child but news about our future twins was about to kill us.
I mean our feelings at that moment were going to explode us! It could be the big happy boom!


#24

I am sorry that you are also undergoing through PCOS. But in your case it seems that is not the main cause. Dealing with weight has been something hard. It really needs sacrifice and dedication. I know you can make it but it might take long. But there are other options available in your case. You can have a child through surrogacy. Like what you have managed to say about surrogacy. Bio texcom is very affordable and offer quality services. You can learn more about them here


. You should also hurry as their economy package is running out. You only have till the end of the week. I believe they will sort you out. I do hope it will work out for you. You should also work out so that you revive your romance with your husband.


#25

Hello! We’re currently undergoing de ivf treatment in Ukraine. After loads of self educating and talking to many lovelies on the point & going through the same thing I’d say ukraine is a good destination for surrogacy obviously. Firstly its surrogacy friendly law. the baby is considered to be yours from the moment of conception. A surrogate has no right to keep the baby after delivery. Secondly, its affordable prices which vary from 30k to 50k euros. (Which is exclusively cheap comparing to those of the US for example.) I’m sorry you found yourself in this tough complicated case, honey. But there’s always the way out. Surrogacy must be the best option for you. This way you double your chances if not more. I believe you’re on the right path. And soon, I hope, I truly hope god will bless you with a lovely kid. If you’re still interested I can pm you with the details biotexcom performs it. Stay well and take care x


#26

Sorry to hear this. Though I believe you should try to change the perspective from torture to better health in general. You should not see losing weight as an obligation to start treatments. Since there is scientific evidence that women whose BMI is too high have lower success rates. By losing weight you don’t only get more chances of getting pregnant but also improve your general health state. IVF works in 40 per cent attempts, but having a too-high BMI only diminishes this percentage. Having a BMI of 25 is the figure recommended by experts. However, if it’s slightly higher than 26 or even 28 as a maximum you can still resort to assisted reproductive technology. Therefore, losing weight is recommended in cases where the BMI is above 28. If you can’t find the willpower, it creates feelings of anxiety in you and you are keen to start the treatment, seeing a nutritionist may be helpful. All the very best ahead!!


#27

We’ve been doing with bio texcom, Kiev. Here’s what to expect during the initial consultation. Firstly, it is to be scheduled at least 1 week ahead and contains the following activities: A set of tests depending on the program (fasting is mandatory). Consultation with a fertility specialist who will be in charge of your program (in case of stimulation you will need to have the transvaginal ultrasound check done). Consultation with a manager who will guide you through the program step by step. Signing of contracts. First payment (If you are taking medications for stimulation from the clinic, the medications are to be paid in cash on the day of consultation). Before any initial consultation you will receive the Guidelines for the Initial Consultation - failure to follow these recommendations may affect the initial consultation in a negative way. After you sign contracts and make the first payment, the medical team starts the selection process.


#28

There are different ways to treat your PCOS, natural remedies and prescription remedies. There is also changes in diet and lifestyle that can also help. Not everyone is then same and while some treatments will help some, it may not help others.
Common treatments for PCOS include:
Ovulation inducing medication. This can be prescription or natural remedies. The goal of these are to induce ovulation in those who are not ovulating. Clomid, Femara, and Soy are the most common prescription and natural ovulation inducing remedies.
Metformin is often prescribed to control blood sugar levels.
Low carb dieting, which helps insulin resistance and promotes weight loss
Exercise, which helps insulin resistance and promotes weight loss
Inositol will help insulin resistance for some.
Spearmint tea can help reduce androgen levels.
Omega 3 fatty acids will help PCOS symptoms
Vitex can regulate cycles for some with PCOS
Tribulus can help some with PCOS when used before ovulation by increasing LH.
Over the counter natural progesterone cream can help some when used after ovulation.
Prescription strength progesterone support may be needed for some. There are different forms such as oral, suppositories, and injections.
Adding obesity is somewhat different though…Do put faith in your Dr. GL!!


#29

Biotex clinic looks very modern, both in exterior and interior. All equipment is new. Everyone who comes into the clinic puts boot covers on. Everything is absolutely clean. All medical stuff wears very neat uniform with badges indicating their names. Nurses and doctors wear one shot sterile gloves. To sum up, the level of medical service is high. Finally, the clinic deals exclusively with foreigners, mainly westerns. So they try to keep up with high requirements of their clients. I was surprised that they have managers speaking so many foreign languages…All this made our stay as comfortable as it could be.


#30

Hi ladies. Just wanted to add some more facts. The truth is, the issue about how much are surrogate mothers paid and where is this practice allows is a very controversial question. As you may know, surrogacy is not allowed everywhere, but in the countries where it is allowed, there may be a great deal of restrictions, especially those relating to financial compensations.
Those countries where commercial surrogacy is banned consider that paying the surrogate for this service leaves behind the altruism this process is supposed to have. Thus, by erasing the possibility of getting a compensation, only women who are only willing to help others will be willing to become surrogates.
This also applies to intended parents and any other third party participating in the process, since there has been cases in which a woman’s body has been used unfairly. To sum up, they believe getting big amounts of money for being a surrogate may lead both the surrogate and the baby-to-be to be targeted merely as a commercial transaction.
For instance, in countries like India, where the economic status of the population is rather low, the compensation and/or payment a surrogate mother may get could be equal to that earned by a whole family in a year or various years. Such change of economic status may lead some people to end up commercializing women’s bodies.
For this reason, the following countries and US states have banned commercial surrogacy either totally or partially:
Canada: Getting any type of financial benefit for being a surrogate is a crime. However, surrogates can be compensated for the expenses derived from pregnancy, although to a maximum amount of $22k.
Australia: Commercial surrogacy is a crime as well, and may be punishable by up to two years imprisonment plus a fine of $110k for intended parents.
US states of Nevada, Virginia, and Washington: The three of them allow surrogates to get an economic compensation for the expenses derived from the process. Any contract of commercial surrogacy will be automatically void.
Brazil: Surrogacy is allowed in this country, but surrogate mothers must be an immediate family member (e.g. mother, sister, or daughter of the prospective surrogate).
Common expenses you are likely to be compensated for include: medical expenses derived from IVF and those linked to pregnancy (ultrasound scan, visits to the clinic…), dietary supplements (if necessary), lost work hours, maternity clothing, etc.
Hope this message was useful for you.


#31

Surrogacy is a selfless act. But the surrogate mother is entitled to rights and protections as well. Some of these include the right to: Have health insurance. Be informed about any medical procedure and the potential side effects. Choose her medical team if side effects develop. Have psychological help at any point during the pregnancy. Receive the compensation and/or reimbursements agreed to in the legal agreement.
There are many reasons why a couple might choose to take the route of having a baby through a surrogate mother.
Same sex couples. Gay couples, for example, will sometimes use donated eggs and the services of a surrogate mother to create a family.
Age. Many clinics have a specific age range requirement when accepting surrogates or gestational carriers.
Personal decision. Everyone has the right to build families in the way that supports their personal choices. For some women, surrogacy might be not a medical choice, but a social choice! (But it’s possible only in several countries. As in the most contries where surrogacy is legal and well regulated you’ll have to prove your disability of carrying kids yourself.)
Unterus absence. The woman in a couple wishing to start a family may not have a uterus. This can be the result of a rare genetic malformation. It’s known to affect as many as one in twelve thousand women. Or these might be the women who have had their uterus removed. Sometimes this is a necessary step in treating such medical conditions as cancer. The lack of a uterus precludes any possibility of the woman bearing a child herself.
Uterine structural problem. Less severe than the mentioned above. A woman might have an uterine defect. It makes conception of a child difficult. Or the woman cannot carry the kid to term. Sometimes, a malformation of the uterus can have little impact on conception, so that it’s still possible for the woman to carry the kid herself.
Finally, some medical conditions like heart disease, kidney disease, or severe diabetes can turn a pregnancy into a life-threatening event for mother and child alike. as might a history of certain types of cancer. Also if the woman is taking certain medicines to treat an unrelated health problem or physical condition may put an unborn child’s health at risk.
Naturally, there are many other reasons for opting to have a child via surrogacy. People who could see their dream of a biological child made reality by means of surrogacy.
The point that the former writer has been through multiple miscarriages makes her the true candidate for surrogacy. Then it’s purely her individual choice whether to use this option or not.
If you are considering going to Ukraine for surrogacy, you’ll need to prove any of this conditions.


#32

The best thing to do when you want to start with surrogacy is definitely just contact some agencies. You can hear our suggestions out, collect a few agencies and then contact them and ask all of the questions about the treatment.
Here is the agency that we have chosen.

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xx


#33

Having PCOS varies from woman to woman, here are symptoms that could indicate you have PCOS. If you feel any of these symptoms are effecting you then talk to you doctor! Not every woman with PCOS will have every symptom, and you do not have to have cysts on your ovaries to have PCOS.
Symptoms of PCOS:
Reduced menstrual cycles than normal or complete lack of having any cycles.
Some can have monthly cycles but not actually be ovulating.
Heavy bleeding during your period, and spotting in between cycles.
Hair loss on your scalp
Excess hair growth on your body such as your face, chest, back, stomach, thumbs, or toes.
Acne and oily skin
Weight gain that is mostly gained around your midsection.
Miscarriage and infertility
Insulin resistance. This can cause miscarriage, poor egg quality, and irregular periods.
Cysts on your ovaries
Difficulty to lose weight despite dieting and exercise
Multiple positive OPKs throughout your cycle, but no ovulation happens.
There is no one single test that is done to diagnose PCOS. It is more a combination of different test results and your symptoms that will lead to a diagnoses.
Common testing that is done to diagnose PCOS:
Blood tests for LH, FSH, TSH, Testosterone, Prolactin, Cholesterol, Triglycerides, Vitamin D.
Progesterone blood test on 7 days past ovulating.
Glucose tolerance test, and fasting Blood glucose numbers to check for insulin resistance.
A pelvic ultasound to check your ovaries for cysts, and to see if they are enlarged.
There are different ways to treat your PCOS, natural remedies and prescription remedies. There is also changes in diet and lifestyle that can also help. Not everyone is then same and while some treatments will help some, it may not hep others.
Common treatments for PCOS include:
Ovulation inducing medication. This can be prescription or natural remedies. The goal of these are to induce ovulation in those who are not ovulating. Clomid, Femara, and Soy are the most common prescription and natural ovulation inducing remedies.
Metformin is often prescribed to control blood sugar levels.
Low carb dieting, which helps insulin resistance and promotes weight loss
Exercise, which helps insulin resistance and promotes weight loss
Inositol will help insulin resistance for some.
Spearmint tea can help reduce androgen levels.
Omega 3 fatty acids will help PCOS symptoms
Vitex can regulate cycles for some with PCOS
Tribulus can help some with PCOS when used before ovulation by increasing LH.
Over the counter natural progesterone cream can help some when used after ovulation.
Prescription strength progesterone support may be needed for some. There are different forms such as oral, suppositories, and injections.


#34

Have a look onto https://biotexcom.com/a-unique-method-to-get-pregnant-in-your-40s-with-your-own-eggs/. I think it might be useful for you~
‘’ BioTexCom Center for Human Reproduction offers patients who are above 40 and for those, who suffer from low levels of AMH, an innovative program that makes it possible to get pregnant with their own eggs. The donation of mitochondria, or,as it is also called, mitochondrial replacement therapy , is an innovation and a breakthrough in the field of ART and the fertility treatment. This program gives women, who underwent numerous unsuccessful IVF cycles, aged 40+, (patients with low mitochondrial functional activity), an excellent chance to give birth to a child who shares a genetic relationship with her and her partner. How is this possible? Mitochondrion is one of the most important components of any living cell, including the egg. In simple words, mitochondrion is the cell’s energy station. Essentially, its work consists in supplying the cell with vital energy for its normal functioning. Women that went through multiple unsuccessful IVF attempts, as well as of older reproductive age, need to restore oocyte mitochondria in order to successfully become pregnant. A woman can become pregnant only if there are functionally active mitochondria in her oocytes. Donation of mitochondria will allow thousands of hopeless women to give birth to a healthy child through IVF using mitochondrial donation. To carry out such a procedure, an egg donor with a high functional activity of mitochondria (a blastocyst production rate of 70% or more), a patient (willing to get pregnant), and sperm for in vitro fertilization are required. Healthy functionally active mitochondria are taken from a donor’s oocyte and integrated with the patient’s cells. Next, fertilization with sperm and transfer of a healthy embryo into the patient’s uterus is performed. Mitochondria donation is a unique assistive reproductive technology, which is basically the implantation of a healthy and functionally active donor mitochondria into the cells of an infertile patient, that provides the patient’s cell with the necessary energy and contributes to successful pregnancy.’’
I need to mention this method is NOT THE SAME as you might read when googling more!!! Other clinics transfer the donor’s cell’s core to the patient’s egg. And this makes a huge difference, because this core affects dramatically the baby’s DNA. At Bio tex com they place back to won egg donor’s mitochondria only! and it does not influence the DNA at all! You get YOUR genetically related baby.


#35

Hi there. I thought of the same. Why not to try such a beautiful method before heading off for donor eggs IVF surrogacy… Mitochondria do have a tiny bit of DNA but it is just used for making energy. The egg donor would contribute the DNA that is in the nucleus, the genome. This would have the genetics for eye color, height, personality, etc. etc. When we think of someone being genetically related, it’s the nuclear genome that we are thinking of, not the mitochondrial DNA. Do the embryo would be yours at least in the way we usually think about it. This approach is based on the idea that aging/poor eggs might not be genetically damaged but might be more out of steam/energy. Some results suggest that adding fresh mitochondria could rejuvenate eggs and help them to succeed. It is cutting edge technology so I’m not sure to what extent it helps, yet. But at least it sounds very extremely promising. I was blessed to still be able to use own eggs surrogacy. But if I were in this boat, I think I’d rather turn to this option. It’s great to see the clinic is stepping forward creating the new treatment plans. good job of them.


#36

Try again! This is the only good answer and a good IVF doctor’s answer will be exactly this. Of course, he may make changes, based on your response, and he will explain these to you. A good doctor will not order a bunch of expensive tests after each IVF failure and doctor will make sure that his patients have realistic expectation about the entire IVF process. If you want to be a mature IVF patient, educate yourself about the process. This will help you to have sensible expectations of IVF treatment. It will protect you from an emotional breakdown; and from unnecessary tests and treatments.
Here’s some statistics on the frequency of conception and successful pregnancy: Probability of success using donor egg – 65% (it slightly change with recipient age). If you are from 29 to 59 your probability of successful conception, bear and give a birth is 55-65%. Using your own egg reduces the this probability on 5% every year. By the age of 42 your chances to get pregnant and bear your child with your own egg is about 7%. I don’t think we can pinpoint very well specific factors or nutrients that might affect egg quality. However, folate is a good candidate. It helps with cell growth, so it would be nice to take prenatal vitamins that contain folic acid. Then I’d agree with above posters you should find a good fertility center. The doc will also ask your friend about diet, stress levels, habits etc. She’ll need to pass the following tests:
Progesterone CD21 Blood Test
LH, FSH, Estrogen, Progesterone & Testosterone CD2-5 Blood Test
Ultrasound on Uterus
HSG Scan
I’d advise to look onto clinics which make the process a ‘‘win-win’’ one. with success or refund coverage. Then you could do research on mitochondrial donation on https://biotexcom.com/a-unique-method-to-get-pregnant-in-your-40s-with-your-own-eggs/. I’ve got interested myself, so am sharing this information with ladies sailing in the same infertility boat. This program gives women, who underwent numerous unsuccessful IVF cycles, aged 40+, patients with low mitochondrial functional activity, an excellent chance to give birth to a child who shares a genetic relationship with her and her partner.
One thing is for sure, I’d exhaust this very plan to before moving onto donor egg. (I would do this myself if only they had this option half a year ego!)
Hope this helps you to get some insight. May God bless you.


#37

Thank you so much for adding this link. May god bless you.
I’m praying it’s still possible for the former writer to harvest some beautiful eggs of her own. I know a lot of people who were of extra lbs. All they had to follow the instuctions to get rid of those first. And then actully proceed with fertility treatment itself. The only way to evaluate the situation is turning to a reputable fertility expert/clinic. The doctor will review your medical history; assess your general health; arrange initial tests and investigations for you and your partner. You should bring a doctor’s referral from a GP (valid for 12 months) or specialist gynaecologist or obstetrician (valid for 3 months). For women, depending on the level of testing already performed, the fertility specialist may order further pathology tests. For men, a blood test for hepatitis B and C, HIV and semen analysis are all routinely conducted. Pre-pregnancy screening for some genetic conditions such as cystic fibrosis is available too. Other diagnostic tests may include some or all of the following: Rubella immunity (German measles), Chicken pox, Hepatitis B and C, HIV, Full blood count, checking your blood group, your thyroid status and Current pap smear (within last 2 years). Vaginal ultrasound to check for fibroids, polyps, ovarian cysts, and to act as a ‘baseline’ for reference during your treatment. Your doctor will also discuss your extra lbs issue and how to deal with it the best.
I believe it’s not the time yet to turn to donor eggs.


#38

Before beginning a cycle of IVF I’d advice considering these important questions:
How many embryos will be transferred? The number of embryos transferred is typically based on the age and number of eggs retrieved. Since the rate of implantation is lower for older women, more embryos are usually transferred ( except for women using donor eggs.)
Most doctors follow specific guidelines to prevent a higher order multiple pregnancy. In some countries, legislation limits the number of embryos that can be transferred at once. Make sure you and your doctor agree on the number of embryos that will be transferred before the transfer procedure.
What will you do with any extra embryos? Extra embryos can be frozen and stored for future use for several years. Not all embryos will survive the freezing and thawing process, although most will. Cryopreservation can make future cycles of IVF less expensive and less invasive. However, the live birth rate from frozen embryos is slightly lower than the live birth rate from fresh embryos. Or, you might be able to donate unused frozen embryos to another couple or a research facility. You might also choose to discard unused embryos.
How will you handle a multiple pregnancy?
And many others. Make sure you clarify all of them.


#39

As for me, I’m quite for gestational surrogacy. I cannot stand the thought that a strange woman can have any genetic tie to our baby. Some time earlier we worried about my disease. I mean, whether it could influence the genetics of our future children. God saved us we were reassured that it would have no relation to the health condition of the intended embryo. So, I’m able to produce high quality eggs. Now I can breathe in more easily. We’ve also looked through some information concerning future-to-be surrogates. It is said that a surrogate must be at least 21 years old. She must have already given birth to at least one healthy baby. In this case she understands first-hand the medical risks of pregnancy and childbirth. The emotional issue of bonding with a newborn is also familiar to her. They say that the most difficult part in the process is when a surrogate passes a psychological screening by a mental health professional. He offers different testing in order to uncover any issues with giving up the baby after birth. And finally, when she willingly signs a contract agreeing to her role and responsibilities in the pregnancy. Quite a complicated process, isn’t it?.


#40

You’re absolutely right. I think you aren’t so confused and embarrassed as you look like from the first sight. And it’s absolutely good. If you have already started to study the necessary information, the desire in you both is really great. I understand you perfectly well, because was in your shoes one time.
Personally I know the people who prefer surrogacy due to completely different reasons. For example, intended mothers do not wish to experience any sort of pain and suffering. Reproductive procedures are also quite painful for the woman. And there are no specific guarantees. So, mothers may decide that they would rather utilize the surrogate method. Also there are no worries about gaining weight, morning sickness, mood swings, hormonal imbalances etc. The great obstacle for us was that we were afraid of some risky situations.
For you to understand better, parents cannot watch the surrogate every step of the way. There is no guarantee that she will carry the child in the exact manner that they would like her to. And there is always the risk that she could decide to consume caffeine or whatever that can potentially damage the child’s health. Some couples overcome all these doubts. Others don’t. We’ve passed a long way to our happiness. Doubted much, but did it.